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Kimmi Chan
Black Rebel Rifter Club
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Posted - 2012.05.29 06:06:00 -
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I like the idea of a Recon ship engaging in... reconnaissance.
Each race has 2 Recon vessels a Combat Recon and a Force Recon. The only significant difference between the two is their weapon types or weapon bonuses. Both have ECM. Both have Cyno. So they are mini-Black Ops.
What if one, let's call it the Combat Recon, had the more advanced weapon systems. the ECM. and the Cyno.
The other, call it Force Recon for now. dumped the ECM and the cyno for passive and/or active scanning mods. Maybe limit it's weapon system - it can suitably defend itself in a short skirmish engagement but without help it's toast.
Maybe make its T1 Cruiser hull have some of the same ability but with greatly reduced bonuses.
I like all of the ideas that you have voiced here. I support the expansion of game play 100%. And I am glad that your idea does not take sides in the whole PvP vs Carebear ****fest. I am adding a link to this post in my signature so that others can evaluate and respond.
Intelligence shouldn't be free. by Mors Sanctitatis |
Kimmi Chan
Black Rebel Rifter Club
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Posted - 2012.05.30 02:15:00 -
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Sosan Metron wrote:Should be moved to features & Ideas forum tho, its gonna dissappear fast here under a pile of crap posts about how difficult the new inventory is or other such rubbish.
Agreed. I wonder if we could just link to this post in F&I or if a Dev/Mod needs to actually move it.
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Kimmi Chan
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.06.02 01:18:00 -
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Garonis wrote:back to top
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Kimmi Chan
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.06.02 02:47:00 -
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Foofad wrote:Overall I like your thoughts, but I want to make one correction. Active sensors are the short ranged ones, not passive.
Passive sensors, even today, are phenomenally sensitive. X-ray telescopes, spectrographs, and so on - all of these sophisticated pieces of scientific hardware that you read about - are passive sensors. And that's just what we've got today. Add a dash of space fantasy and there's no reason why a space ship's passive sensors shouldn't be able to detect the electromagnetic emissions of another space ship on the opposite end of a solar system.
Active sensors are needed for precise ranging that doesn't rely on assumptions and known factors. Active sensors are things like RADAR, LIDAR, Sonar, and so on. Active sensors are limited by the amount of energy that can be devoted to them. In order to detect something, an active sensor has to "ping" (like Sonar, echolocation, etc) and then listen in for a reflection. Lasers, like what are used in LIDAR, are very focused beams of light. As the distance grows however, they lose that focus. It's just like the cone of a flash light. As such, the energy requirement to detect something grows very rapidly as the distance increases.
So active sensors are something that you would see used for things like fire control, surface mapping, precise local navigation, missile or drone guidance, things like that. But active sensors are really not that useful over great distances, like if you're trying to detect an object or ship. This is why, for example, we are only just now mapping the surface of the moon with RADAR - we only recently had probes in orbit with that capability, and couldn't do it from Earth or an Earth orbiting satelite. Even WISE, the famed Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer which is known for detecting and mapping the trajectories of asteroids flying around our solar system, is just a fancy passive telescope. Meanwhile, NASA has a RADAR station that is capable of detecting individual raindrops in a cloud - but only to a range of two kilometers.
Just throwing that out there. It's an important distinction to make.
I believe that the differentiating of passive and active was for gameplay balance. Passive does not reveal your position - it is just listening and at long-range like S.E.T.I. with murky results. Active is transmitting and giving more accurate, short-range results but reveals your position, Like a sonar ping as you mentioned.
Intelligence shouldn't be free. by Mors Sanctitatis |
Kimmi Chan
Illuminatus Reforged
The Revenant Order
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Posted - 2012.06.21 02:10:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Ah removing local. Always good to see that coming up again and again.
The nice thing about the OP is that it isn't just the removal of local but replacing local with a new, more interactive mechanic that, at least in my opinion, has the potential for making the game more fun and immersive (making up words).
I agree. I am not really in favor of just removing local and saying, "Woohoo, Eve is fixed." But the OP is not suggesting that. He is suggesting a replacement for local.
-á"Miners mine so I don't have to." ~Metal Icarus |
Kimmi Chan
Illuminatus Reforged
The Revenant Order
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Posted - 2012.06.22 11:10:00 -
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I petitioned to get it moved. I got tired of it getting buried under a deluge of Goons R Bad and **** Miners threads.
I apologize if my actions have offended anyone.
-á"Miners mine so I don't have to." ~Metal Icarus |
Kimmi Chan
Illuminatus Reforged
The Revenant Order
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Posted - 2012.06.26 11:28:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:The flare of an interstellar antimatter rocket could be seen from Alpha Centauri.
With passive sensor technology.
Available today.
I don't want to troll but you assert that the means to "see" an antimatter rocket from Alpha Centauri is available to us today. How is that possible considering that antimatter rockets are NOT available to us today?
The game mechanics of this design are more "submarine" in nature. Think of this more in terms of playing a submarine, "cat and mouse" game. Think of The Hunt for Red October and you will see this concept as the OP envisions its deployment. Passive SONAR "listening" for signatures amidst the "background noise" of space. Active SONAR "pinging" in a particular direction to sniff out it's prey (and revealing the location of a cloaked ship).
If you keep the framework of this concept in those terms, it will make more sense.
-á"Miners mine so I don't have to." ~Metal Icarus |
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